Recommended turn order based on play times:

2 changes were brought to the rules http://www.the-battlefield.co... />- Maximum Heroes Level: 20 (was already updated earlier)
- Rule 2 has been modified: the host must now be #2 in the turn order (updated today)

For other topics, the judges mainly decided to stick to current rules. We're currently discussing the 1st turn reload rule.
The reasons for sticking with current rules are that support for changes is limited to 3-5 players, current rules are likely to increase the number of viable strategies (though sometimes it increases the luck factor) and some changes would mean a significant workload for judges.

The 1st round of the tournament should last 3 months because some players will be on holidays with limited internet access.

Please note that only 2 slots are left to join the tournament! And I know of about 6 players interested so we should be full and maybe have 1 or 2 reserve teams!

@jabst: "Water Slider at 25%" so you should not have that much water
@Marcus: thanks for the bug report, it should be corrected in v1.15. I also think Ghoul Strike deals too much damage, what do you all think about it?

EDIT: I added the following proposals to the summary table: https://docs.google.com/docum... />Ne09a
Energy Drain has a physical strength 10 (was spirit strength 10)
Ne09b
Energy Drain is melee only (was melee and ranged)
So08
Sorcerer heroes and leaders can choose Inflict Stun for 6 (was 5)

water blocked is really irritating like undiggable walls, is there way to lower this setting? 

It might just be a display error, but I had 47% chance to ghoul a reanimator in battle. The Ghoul strike failed by the way

Boze joined !!

ED is range also?
Maybe it would be an idea to switch it to melee only, like inflict dazzled?
It could also minimize the melee attack of the attacked unit.
One further idea could be to add this meele attack to the Necro heroe (if possible)

But switching to physical check could work fine

well nice catch. Stun is even more op than Energy drain. If we are worried about it chance being 100% by despair then we need to fix the despair not the Energy drain. As I mentioned before we can change the strength check against physical instead spirit. I am getting the feeling that we are trying to nerf Necro so such that it becomes unplayable.

Speaking about the ED - it's similar in properties with the Inflict Stun. (sorccerer heroes can farm exp in the same way, btw).
ED can be simply allowed to be obtained at lvl 7 or 8

Turn 1 restart - IF we go on we'll implement all the rules from HoMM3  which is fine, because those are the best rules coming from the best MP community and game (;

Can we also make tournament rule that each game a reroll of game on turn 1 is allowed. This is 1 per team per game. This prevents very bad start

That's why the 2 effects have been separated. Despair is still stackable and will still work for Exploit Despair. But the -30% spirit resistance is not stackable any more.

So... mauve, Dagoth, rickiroo looking for team mates + probably other I don't know of.

I agree Energy drain is little OP. But we need to be careful in modifying otherwise it might become useless i.e. for example it shouldn't be less useful than a throw net which is ranged ability which can stun or lose 50% energy.

Regarding removing stackable of inflict despair, I would like to remind of Exploit despair which works based on stack. Some good units in Necro class use Exploit despair

Since Energy Drain is an inflict attack. If you make it stackable, you can not only immobilize a unit, but do damage and gain xp at the same time. With two necromancers being able to freeze two units while gaining xp, it really aides in being able to control the flow of the battle to not only minimize damage but direct XP back to your heroes. If you wanted to switch it to a ranged ability that froze a unit while producing 0 XP and doing 0 damage, I would agree with you that that ability would not be over powered.

Regarding the PBEM 2v2 tournament, I am willing to participate if you need another body, but I hesitate to join because I know I'm a liability to a potential team member. I generally play random leaders, and I don't have the time to practice, so there are few combinations that I'll actually be able to do well with.

For what it is worth though, I would be in favour of a no-repeat rule for class and race if I was participating. It wouldn't affect me much at all in my choices, but it is more interesting to play against a greater variety of enemy leaders.

@Hiliadan
I understand that, but charm, seduce , convert works only if it doesn't have mind control immunity. Ghoul curse is no more OP (Only one chance per lvl 9 necro hero per battle). Most of good units  (tier 3 and tier 4) has mind control immunity.

I agree energy drain stacks with inflict despair, we should consider energy drain as check against physical strength rather than spirit if that is possible. Energy drain is used by leader/hero which means hero/leader didn't perform any other valuable action we should also consider that.

@jabst: Inflict Despair still allow to get 100% spirit weakness and 100% chance of Convert, Charm, Inflict Fear, Energy Drain, etc. That should not be allowed.
Energy Drain gives very high chances to immobilize a unit every turn, that's why it should not be stackable.
I noted your opinion in the summary table: https://docs.google.com/docum... />
@SeeR: ok we'll investigate that!

@all: people without team (as far as I know): Dagoth, rickiroo, mauvebutterfly and probably Fistandantilus

Dagoth_Ur joined !!

Necro is already nerfed so much and got balanced. regarding inflict despair the current mod causes 10% weakness and -200 morale with lower spirit check is decent. Regarding Energy drain stackable should be present but if needed lower the strength check.

Hiliadan , that does not seem to work , when I try to click the join button

I get a red error message saying I am already registered.

also I do not see a way to leave this "pool" and then rejoin with the registration button.

To join: http://www.the-battlefield.co... then "Join Event" then you can register your team.

Senyu quitted!