Recommended turn order based on play times:

Secret spells are very random, so maybe it is ok to leave for the tournament. Still I wanted to put out there that we should remove the useless and over-powered secret spells from rewards. I have won different games by the luck of the draw on different rewards.

Can antiserum heal outside the combat?

Nice idea gladis, I added it on the table https://docs.google.com/docum... like that:
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Rogue heroes and leaders can choose Antiserum for 4 points at level 5. Antiserum can be used once per battle on a Poisonned unit (touch ability): it heals 10 HP and gets 100% Blight Protection for one round.

You can also discuss changes here: http://aow.triumph.net/forums... />
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ANNOUNCEMENT for the tournament:
It is forbidden to exchange back and forth cities between allies to achieve Empire Quests. One player can give cities to his allies but then his ally cannot give them back until the end of the game. The only exception is if the initial giver has lost all his cities, in which case his ally can give him one city back.
Similar exploits are banned.
I add this inside a new "rule 11" in the rules of the tournament: http://www.the-battlefield.co...

1 slot left! Dagoth, mauve, rickiroo, it's time to join before it's too late!

Judges (Markymark, Fistandantilus and me) went against reroll on turn 1. As DreadReapr pointed out, with weak starting army, everyone has the same units. I've never heard of hated or disliked starting terrain. If that happens, the best is that the host sends a screenshot to judges and we'll see on a case by case basis.
A good reason for reload would be if tournament settings had not been respected, but then you would need judges' approval.

The start date is still 15 July because we need time to get v1.15 and then test it a few days to make sure it works properly.

By the way, the suggestions made will be taken into account for next tournament (probably 1vs1 PBEM) and for instance, we could have a "never the same class nor the same race" tournament next time.

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I was talking about bad terrain. Lets say Draco starts on Artic.

I agree with Gladis that every Rogue should have a first aid kit 

I read of the idea of giving rogue heroes a small healing ability.
How about combining it with cure disease (max +10 HP + xx % of blight resistance) and call it "antiserum" e.g..
The discussion now could be, whether the unit HAS to be poisened or something like that to do this ability in battle.
If you then compare it to break control, it is also possible to give 100% blight resistance for only one round. Ofc heroe can perform it only once per battle.

It could match up with the idea of rogue as the unit has now a good chance of slaying the enemy unit which has poisened him before

PS: I think a reload in round 1 is not needed. I think there is already the chance of sening a screen to the judges if there are problems with mines/nodes or something. Or is it about loosing the leader in the 1st round?

i dnt understand why u consider a reroll per team, its weak starting units so its always irregulars and cavalry. did i miss smthing?

can we consider turn 1 reroll per team?

2 changes were brought to the rules http://www.the-battlefield.co... />- Maximum Heroes Level: 20 (was already updated earlier)
- Rule 2 has been modified: the host must now be #2 in the turn order (updated today)

For other topics, the judges mainly decided to stick to current rules. We're currently discussing the 1st turn reload rule.
The reasons for sticking with current rules are that support for changes is limited to 3-5 players, current rules are likely to increase the number of viable strategies (though sometimes it increases the luck factor) and some changes would mean a significant workload for judges.

The 1st round of the tournament should last 3 months because some players will be on holidays with limited internet access.

Please note that only 2 slots are left to join the tournament! And I know of about 6 players interested so we should be full and maybe have 1 or 2 reserve teams!

@jabst: "Water Slider at 25%" so you should not have that much water
@Marcus: thanks for the bug report, it should be corrected in v1.15. I also think Ghoul Strike deals too much damage, what do you all think about it?

EDIT: I added the following proposals to the summary table: https://docs.google.com/docum... />Ne09a
Energy Drain has a physical strength 10 (was spirit strength 10)
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Energy Drain is melee only (was melee and ranged)
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Sorcerer heroes and leaders can choose Inflict Stun for 6 (was 5)

water blocked is really irritating like undiggable walls, is there way to lower this setting? 

It might just be a display error, but I had 47% chance to ghoul a reanimator in battle. The Ghoul strike failed by the way

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ED is range also?
Maybe it would be an idea to switch it to melee only, like inflict dazzled?
It could also minimize the melee attack of the attacked unit.
One further idea could be to add this meele attack to the Necro heroe (if possible)

But switching to physical check could work fine

well nice catch. Stun is even more op than Energy drain. If we are worried about it chance being 100% by despair then we need to fix the despair not the Energy drain. As I mentioned before we can change the strength check against physical instead spirit. I am getting the feeling that we are trying to nerf Necro so such that it becomes unplayable.