Recommended turn order based on play times:

All games have been filled! Probably time to open some new ones!

Only 11 people voted in the poll How best to balance all heroes and their abilities and also make them more interesting? Please vote, including if you think heroes are fine, there is an option for that in the poll! Multiple answers possible!

A big event to present the Shadow Realm community expansion, promote all the good content done by the community for AoW3 (mods, maps, videos, guides) and provide some exciting live stream of tactical battle is planned on the Battlefield's chat soon. In order to choose the date (21, 24 or 25 June) and show how many people are interested, please fill the following Doodle: http://doodle.com/poll/ibanatgmtq33pncs
There are only 3 options available and I'll then choose the date and time in about 72 hours or less.

A new poll has been launched to get a better understanding of what the community wants to "Make all heroes and their abilities more interesting (e.g. boost Dreadnought’s late game abilities)". That option indeed came on top in the previous poll What direction should the Balance Mod take in the coming months?, as you can see in the picture below. We have been working on it in the past few weeks and several proposals were made for v1.22 but there was no clear consensus on most of them so now, we're exploring different options and your opinion will be very useful to shape v1.23 and future versions of the balance mod.
How best to balance all heroes and their abilities and also make them more interesting? (multiple answers possible)


I opened a new game: Academy game for non-Veterans
We need 4 more non-Veteran players who want to learn strategies and tactics for AoW3 PBEM. We already have 2 "trainees" and DreadReapr and me as "trainers". The game should start around mid-June.

Also, for those interested, here is a video of the clearing of a Lost City on turn 8 in my latest Duel Tournament game vs DarkRider: https://youtu.be/TqvmJevRwbs<... />
As always, welcome everyone to open more games: link to create a new game.

Saunatonttu joined !!

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2 games still open:
- FFA 4 Beginners No MC: 2 slots available, Imperium and chiveicrook already there. To limit mind-control early snowballing, the game restricts class to Warlord, Sorcerer, Dreadnought. I think the game is open to all non-Veteran players, time to join!
- Favoured Mods 3v3 1.8: this game hosted by SeeR is still looking for 2 players

Please note that the beta branch of the balance mod should be updated in about 2 weeks with v1.22 (if Zaskow has time to mod the changes). v1.22 should then be released to the main branch in about 60 days.

By the way, I encourage all hosts to consider using the Hero Development Mod in their new games as it brings new very interesting options for hero development and its model of 3 sub-classes for each of the main class is being considered for the balance mod as it could solve the issue of hero becoming too strong too fast, and could make hero progression interesting and balanced even if the max hero level is 20. The mod is here: http://steamcommunity.com/sha...

Since the Beginners FFA is going its own sweet rythm now (and it is ok for me), I have opened a new similar game with a twist : no Mind Control !

Find all the details here : FFA 4 Beginners No MC

3 slots are available for the interested players.

@all: one game still open and needing 2 players:
Favoured Mods 3v3 1.8 hosted by SeeR with 11 mods to boost the AoW3 experience

@Skuns: I'm not sure we understand the poll the same way? The poll is about the difficulties you have when you PLAY Necromancer, not the advantages of Necro over other classes. If I understand correctly what you say, you are saying that Necro can Plunder or Hasty Plunder living cities but living classes can only Raze, and not Plunder or Hasty Plunder undead cities, right? Well, that's not a difficulty you face when you play Necro.
Also, the options for the poll were determined after 2 weeks of discussion open to everyone on the Steam forum: https://steamcommunity.com/ap... and I believe I linked this discussion either on the Player Pools or on the chat. So if any option is missing, that's because nobody thought about it during the discussion on the Steam forum.
I agree that it is a disadvantage for living class fighting Necro not to be able to Plunder. I suggest you post it on the discussion about the balance mod on the forum so that we don't forget about it: http://aow.triumph.net/forums... />
@AlX: thanks for reporting the issue with Builders and fortress on water, Zaskow fixed it quickly after your report.

Hi.
I'm interesting why in this poll there is no a propose like that: "Plundering of the undead cities gives some gold\mana in addition to -150 morale"?
I understand that it concerns more about cities economy when you're playing against Necro. But also it maybe the session like 1vs1vs1 where 2 of 3 players are Necro. And they can plunder alive cities with gold\mana bonus. But 3-rd player can plunder undead cities without such bonus.
I agree that in the sessions like 1vs1 tourney ones it may be not much important. But already in 2vs2 sessions it can influence on the result

I was impatient, and joined too many games considering the time frame of those, other games, and when new games are to be started (and the 10 game limit...).

I hosted a duel challenge using hero development plus the balance mod. This should be doable within a month.

Hey guys, 

Not sure if this was reported in other threads:

- the patch 1.8 "Poseidon" doesn't seem to integrate well with the Balance Mod (or should I say vice-versa).
the one issue I spotted right away - that the embarked settler doesn't get the "Build water Fortress" ability. When disabling balance mod and running test game - ability does show up.

Thanks Imperium for opening that game for beginners. It filled up very quickly and I think there are many more non-Veteran players who would like to join new games, so please @all: open more! You can create a new game through the top menu "Game" then "Create game".

There are currently 3 open games:
- 4vs4 The Sinner are looking for opponents: the team Sin is looking for 4 opponents. Gilafron and rickyroo already joined so it seems they need 2 more players.
- 3vs3 large no quitters 1.21 BF: rickyroo hosted a game open to everyone from the Battlefield. It uses standard tournament settings except that it's a Large map, Land (instead of Continent), 3 heroes at level 15 max (instead of 2 at lvl 13 or 20). I think the spirit is probably that 6 players join and then teams are set up, as balanced as possible. So no need to have a team to join (correct me rickyroo if I'm wrong).
- Favoured Mods 3v3 1.8 BETAxBETA: SeeR hosted a "fancy game" as he calls them. The game will be played with the new 1.8 from Triumph, which allow to build Fort on water and add 1 new resource on water, as well as a few mods that brings fresh air to our favourite game. Same as the game of rickyroo: join and then teams will be set up based on the respective strenght of participants.

By the way, we have few teams that have 4 players, or even 3 players. So don't hesitate to contact other players you like to play with to create new team or join their team! Here is the situation of teams as I know them:
- The Sinners has 4 players
- A Song of Blight and Ice has 3 players (cbower left) and is playing a 4vs4 with Jean de Metz
- King Serpents has 4 players
- Old-bf has 2 active players
- Zia has 2 players
- Team of Bears has 2 players
- Coup de Grâce has 2 players
- rrrrookie & Jonny Thunder also regularly plays as a team (though not officially registered)
- Hawks has many players but is not like other teams


I have been uploading the videos of the turns from rickyroo and I's game vs rrrrookie and Jonny Thunder in round 3 of the PBEM 2vs2 Team Tournament (still many turns to upload, it takes some time). You can check the playlist of the game on YouTube. For those interested to see the rush of rrrrookie on turn 19 and how we responded to it, check out the turns 19 to 23 (follow the link to turn 19).
You can see our class/race and specs in the picture below:

@Elysian : Excellent !

One more for a beginner's free for all ?

Game page is created : FFA for Beginners

@Imperium I'm interested! I'll join in when the game is is up..

Anyone interested for a beginner's FFA ? With the PBEM mod, and for 3 players maximum to get a good rythm of play, novice players wanted and preferred : the objective is to allow strategic development on all sides, not to crush (or be crushed) at turn 15 by a rush attack.

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OK so I admit I do lack an extensive AoW3 PBEM games experience yet from the games i've played up to now it seems that 1vs1 games are a bit like russian roulette where the initial class+race choice can have a big influence on the final result, all other things (e.g. strategic development) being equal.

I don't think there is any way to fix this in the PBEM mod though, but from a tournament point of view I find this frustrating. Maybe an option would be to select the victor by playing two games instead of one, where the race+class would be swiched in the second game ?

@Hiliadan, yes, I could make that map you requested.  Tell my what sites, quadrant, etc.

Hoy guys, 

are you aware that Triumph is planning on making water forts part of a game?
http://aow.triumph.net/the-v1-8-poseidon-patch-in-steam-open-beta/

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I also just had an issue with the debug mode, updated one game with debug on and now it´s not playable for others without debug mode on. Same goes for debug off. So better turn the mode off before you update any game.